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I am no expert either but I have noticed appreciable difference between the different fats. In a simply discussion I will only differentiate between suet, regular fat, and deckle fat. In reality the fats from different parts of the beef vary in terms of their fatty acid composition. The easiest way to tell them apart is their melting/render temperature. Some of the fatty acids break out of solution upon reaching temperatures as low as 100 degrees F. Others, do not fall out of solution until much higher temperatures such as 180 degrees F.

Next time you eat a rib-eye, medium-rare of even rare, take notice of how the runnings from your steak coagulate. Some fat will begin to form small discs or even a fine layer of solids, while some of the other runnings stay liquid. If you leave them there long enough to fall below 100 degrees F, or even more so for refridgerator temperatures, you will see everything become solid.

Different fatty acids are more saturated and less saturated than others. The diet of the animal largely influences the chemical properties. Although, it is not beef, I have certainly observed how when harvesting swine from different growers who feed differently, the fat reacts differently to the touch, even so much that I can see it drip onto the kill-floor while siding the animal.

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Can anyone here tell us some differences between fat and suet?
Obviously, they come from different areas.
 
My observation is suet is much harder at cutting room temperature. Suet is more brittle at cutting room temperature. You can see it break up if you cut it in pieces for grinding. Fat doesn't do that. If you've ever ground suet, it comes out different than pure fat does. The grinder head will look different inside when you grind suet compared to fat.
 
Suet is used for pudding (British). Can you substitute fat? Why?
If a customer asks for suet and you don't have any, but give her/him fat instead, that's wrong, but why?
If you have some very lean beef for grinding and want to add some fat, what would it taste like if you used suet? With a lower congelation point 98.6-104 (says wikipedia) would a suet/beef burger be pretty nasty if it got even a little cold?
If a customer asked you to tie some fat onto a lean beef roast and you used suet, how would it taste? Sometimes the customer actually uses the word suet, "can you tied some suet on it for me?"
People use suet for bird feed. They melt it and add seeds and hang it from trees. Could you substitute fat? What works best for soap making?
They have different melting points.
Wiki said suet is better for deep frying.
Wikipedia says:
"Due to its high energy content, suet is used by cold weather explorers to supplement the high daily energy requirement needed to travel in such climates. Typically the energy requirement is around 5,000-6,000 kcal per day for sledge hauling or dog-sled traveling. Suet is added to food rations to increase the fat content and help meet this high energy requirement."


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JimmyMac wrote:


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Well I can't answer all your questions but I do have about a nickel's worth to contribute. Back in the day when I was a youngster (Yah the earth was still steaming then) they use to add kidney suet to venison for burger. That was nasty. It's no wonder a lot of people said they didn't like venison! Maybe some members can relate to this. You'd take a bite then chase it with some milk, pretty disgusting. The fat would form a greasy film on the roof of your mouth. Pretty gross. I've done a lot of deer processing in the last 20 years or so and I found that almost all my customers would ask for suet to be added to the trimmings for ground venison but most if not all didn't know there was a difference in the fats. Most just thought that suet was the name for beef fat. I would explain that there is a difference and recommend regular fat from loin, chuck and round. I never had anyone insist on kidney suet. I did however get many many compliments on the quality and taste of the burger that I made for them. I heard countless times from guys that their wives and kids would never eat the ground venison from other processors until they started having me do their processing. I know some of that is due to too much venison tallow in the trim but then add suet to that and yuuuck.

I seem to find much of the same thing in retail. I will always ask what they're using it for and if it comes from a recipe I won't try to talk them into other fats. Usually they don't even know there is a difference.

Some pasty makers use suet in the crust and I've found them to be greasy also. Those recipes are kind of "old school". To each their own but I don't care for that myself.

I've heard that a little brisket fat mixed in burger adds good flavor. I haven't really tried that but I could see where that might be good.

We make "bird balls" using regular fat ground once then mix bird seed and form into a ball the size of a softball and then cover the outside with bird seed. The birds must approve because they sell pretty well.  If the fat isn't ground I can see where suet would work better cause it will crumble and flake off and be easy for the birds to eat.

I don't have any science to add, just personal experience.

Hope this is of some value to somebody



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hanging tenders and suet makes the best burger ever.
we used to say if you got fat and lean you got burger( the days before tubes)
i remember one 4th july ran out of trim we were pulling fat out of the cans and mixing it with cow knuckle for our .98 ground beef sale

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Suet is the fat from around the kidneys and some people would have sold a piece of it when selling kidneys for steak and kidney pies.

Its then coursely grated and used for the pastry much easier to handle than using chilled butter. It makes a more flakey pastry because it melts slower and sort of leaves a bubbley pastry if ive explained it right.

Its also used in dumpling and steamed pudding type recipes.

Its mainly found in the shops here in the chilled section near the butter when you find packets of lard.Atora is the main brand that you see.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atora

http://www.atora.co.uk/

Like lard it has gone out of fashion though lard does make the best chips (fries)

 


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Suet is used for pudding (British). Can you substitute fat? Why?

Nope but other types of fats are used instead like butter. Not sure on why but its probably how it melts.

If a customer asks for suet and you don't have any, but give her/him fat instead, that's wrong, but why?

Nope suet is different and hassle to prepare in its so id think any fat would be worse basically you melt it then pour water on it to get the fat to float to the top then melt it again after it hardens to sieve the bits out probably why people dont get it from the butcher and buy brand like Atora



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