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From: MSN Nicknamec.gifkycatman011  (Original Message)Sent: 10/8/2006 2:02 AM
Any Ideas! Im a Meat Team leader at a high volume store(Meijers). I have a really slow crew. This is a union setting. We do about $100,000.00 in sales a week in the meat dept alone. I have cut meat for 15 years. Ive been a meat mgr at other shops but never before with a union involvement. Ive worked at Sav o lots, Keymarket stores,Foodlion,Rays Supermarket, Dolls market, Walmart supercenter back when they cut meat. Now it is all prepacked and displayed with no art. Very boring I think.Anyways I cannot seem to get people interested in getting in a hurry. U know (hustle to make more sales). I thought about having contests within the dept with different items and dedicate these items to individuals to push with the person moving the most product to reap a reward. I dont know! Does any body have ideas to motivate these associates to encourage them to Hustle and to make it fun and not just a job! Ive rattled my brain ! Im stumped . Can anyone Help! I have 3 meatcutters,3 stockers and 3 wrappers and myself. and 2 Seafood workers. 8 Endcaps with a full service counter. Im running they are hiding whats my solution?


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From: MSN Nicknamec.gifgbcmanSent: 10/15/2006 2:11 PM
hey i am a back up head meat cutter for kroger in raleigh. we also have a union in our store. well if u seem to have slow works. start leaving a list for them to do n they need to make sure they need to finish it before they leave for the day. failure to do so can results in write ups. enough of write ups should get them movited to do the work or they will be on the outside looking in.


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From: MSN Nicknamec.gifkycatman011Sent: 10/18/2006 12:23 AM
Thankya there! Im working on exactly that right now. Im seeing some improvement! I have put out to do lists everyday! i am making one for everybody. Ive made some surprise visits also . They seem to be doing alot better ! The first time I made a surprise visit in the evening my cutter and stocker were on the clock outside smoking. They didnt know what to do when i drove by the smoke area and asked why their was no coverage in the dept. that write up didnt go over well with the store director in charge. They were almost termed. sales have increased the past two weeks because they have been really working through their shift. no more chances for them. Thanks but things are starting to look up.


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From: MSN Nicknamec.gifMeatgradySent: 10/20/2006 4:41 PM
My crew tells me they have till 3:30 to get it out. I tell them if they don't want to do it, I'll get someone that will. They'll be working at Wal-mart!!

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From: MSN Nicknamec.gifdedmammalSent: 10/20/2006 9:43 PM
maybe thats where they'd be more comfortable.if we are caught up i have no problem with people taking an extra break or two,but first things first!


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From: MSN Nicknamec.gifMeatgradySent: 10/21/2006 7:27 PM
I have a good crew. When it isn't real busy we do take a little longer for break. But your right ,first things first. sometimes it's no break!!
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From: MSN Nicknamec.gifdedmammalSent: 10/22/2006 11:47 AM
i'm having trouble getting my wrapper and lunchmeat girl.they take smoke breaks every time you aren't looking!i have other thing to do besides babysitting.i was told everyone must clean up at least one night a week.maybe this problem will take care of itself!


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From: MSN Nicknamec.gifapcowboySent: 10/22/2006 5:50 PM
lol  maybe it's time to throw a " little fit " at thememwink.gif
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From: MSN Nicknamec.gifdedmammalSent: 10/22/2006 7:25 PM
one's fixin' to have surgery.she'll be out thru turkey day...again this year.hmmm.the other wants to take breaks every hour and a half.she's been wrapping almost two years now,and won't not can't keep herself busy.hate to be a bad guy but somethings gonna change soon.first market i've had,need all the help i can get!


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From: MSN Nicknamec.gifapcowboySent: 10/22/2006 7:51 PM
I always try to be good to my co workers because with out them I couldn't run a market, BUT  you know the old saying, give them a inch and they will take a mile.
when they get to the 1/2 mile mark I throw a small " fit " to remind them I can be a *******emwink.gif
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From: MSN Nicknamec.gifdedmammalSent: 10/22/2006 9:01 PM
i guess that's why you da man cowboy!!!!!


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From: MSN Nicknamec.gifkycatman011Sent: 10/23/2006 1:32 AM
See if you was in Kentucky id join up with you and give you a hand . Sorry your not closer. I would come and help

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From: MSN Nicknamec.gifCarniceroLarrySent: 10/26/2006 2:29 AM
I think a lot of shops have a big problem with people who don't earn their money. That is unless it's a shop that doesn't pay well enough in the first place. I would say that any union shop in Southern California would fall into that category, at least for the new employees who are at the second level of the two tier payment. If I was there, I'd say "screw the company", but I'm not there. I do have a fair paying job, at least for now (until next contract???. It's getting worse each time) To the companies (union or not) that don't pay well enough: I say "If you pay peanuts, you get monkeys" (quote credited to Joel Drucker in his Jimmy Connors bio) Anyway, back to the topic. I don't consider myself to be in the group of people who need to be changed. I know the type. Since I'm already working hard, it bugs me when any person thinks he can motivate me to work harder. Especially some jerk from the main office. Some guy who doesn't actually work. Some guy who spends time wondering about such things when he could be more productive by picking up a mop or some similar object and use it. A "clip board queen". All that will do is make the bad guys worse and piss off the good ones.  I think a good way way to make people work harder is to set the example. You have to work as hard or harder than them (not that you already aren't). I've seen a lot of idiot "do as I say, not as I do" managers. LOTS of them. Get on the saw, or block and cut like hell. But be smart about it, not cutting like a pig making a huge mess and then walking away for someone else to clean it up. If you do that, I guarantee it will have a negative effect on production. Always be on time, don't leave early. Don't say "I didn't take lunch, so I'm leaving an hour early". Don't even leave 10 minutes early because "you didn't take a break". If you set the example and it doesn't work, then it may be the company's fault. They have stupid rules that make it hard to do your job, or maybe they aren't paying enough. Many times it is the employees fault and then maybe you need to play hard ball and watch them. Have people up front watch them, and when they mess up, start the steps that are required to fire them. Some people are just plain bad and can't be changed. I don't think the incentives for highest production are a good idea. Other areas will suffer if you do that. If you just focus on how much meat they cut, cleaning will suffer. Quality of cutting will suffer, etc. etc. I've seen a lot of quick cutters that make a huge mess, create too much trim and have low quality work that might not even sell. As for cutting lists: I HATE EM. I do not like a guy who leaves at 2:00 PM leaving a list for me when I leave at 9:30 PM. I mean it's OK as long as they're reasonable about it if you don't finish the list. My current manager is a reasonable person. However, I have worked with a lot of stupid unreasonable managers who don't leave an intelligent cutting list. There are usually a few items we need in the counter that are not on the list. If you cut those things, then it will be very difficult to cut the things on the list (things you don't need as bad, or may not need at all). Some of the stupid managers don't have enough grind for the night man. They don't have enough ad items cut. They leave with the counter a mess. They wasted time writing a stupid list. Time that could have been spent cutting and wrapping one of those ad items that we need. If you have a decent crew, there should be no need for a list. The counter is the list. Look at it. If you have no boneless pork chops, cut some, etc. etc. If a person wants to make the list the #1 job, then I say "screw everything else". I will finish that list, but you'll probably be out of some important items in the morning. These comments are not directed at anyone here. It's directed at some of the people I have worked with since 1978. BTW, don't get me wrong. I'm on your side. There are a lot of lazy meat cutters out there. BTW, does anyone know why I can't post here except when replying to a letter I got through e-mail? Whenever I want to respond to a topic, I ALWAYS get bumped off line when I hit "reply". Also, I want to start a few new topics and I'm unable to do that.

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From: MSN Nicknamec.gifdedmammalSent: 10/26/2006 7:06 PM
amen to that!  you can't make someone want to work, they have to decide themselves.i guess thats how it'll sort itself out.work, or don't.if the latter, then don't work here!

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i give each man a job if they start messing around not doing what they are supposed to do i make every one in the shop stop doing there job and go bail out the guy who isnt doing his job and that embarasses the hell out of em plus i make em stay till the job is finished. they know if there is overtime they will be wrote up.union settings are hard im non union and i can send problems home without pay

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butcherjohn, you a new member BUT I see right now I like you already lol you hard but you fair, I like that !!

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anyone got any comments for this one



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I'm hands off union. WAAAAAAY TOO MUCH BS!!! And way to little to show for it. I like the idea but hate the reality. I'm not paying for somebody to loaf and that is what happens most of the time, in my experience.

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