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I'm sorry to say I did not care for Safeway at all! That is putting it real nicely! I moved across the country to take a job with them mainly cause of all the good things a coworker told me about them from working for them in OK in the 70's and 80's.  What a massive disappointment! lol! Some people have a high tolerance for bull @#%&* , pettiness and overkill with rules. I'm not one of them. I wish I were more laid back and nothing bothered me like some people are but I'm not. I can fill a meat case with beautifully cut meat but can't tolerate all the silliness. (Of course it's just boxed meat anybody can do that right boys and girls? yah right) So I'll just keep seeking out the shops that "don't sweat the small stuff" and they'll be happy I did and I'll squeak bye. I'll be winning the lottery any day now...lol! And also I did see a guy, my boss in fact, get a steel mesh glove caught in the band saw he did not get cut. It's been a while but if I recall I think it stopped the saw! The glove was a total loss tho lol! They use to say that a cotton glove would get your hand pulled into the saw too. That's bunk I've seen that also, that saw cuts through that glove like it's not even there.



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lets keep in mind that most of us are speaking of safeway locations in the united states while sunday is speaking of a location in canada.  It has come to my attention some time ago that opportunies for meat cutter's in canada are MUCH better than here in the states. In fact I have been considering pulling up stakes and moving to canada for that reason alone.    I never worked for safeway but I did work for one of their sister stores and I knew quite a few people who worked for safeway and their meat dept. was always short handed.    they hired very little help and expected the few people they had to do a rediculous amount of work. I have seen this while visiting a safe way location and I felt so sorry for the meat manager. they poor guy was just overwhelmed.   But lets keep in mind that was in Virginia.  I would suggest that Sunday try to find some people who work with a canadian safeway and get a better opinion because I really believe things are better there for meat cutters.



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  Safeway is a great place to work, yes they do have their audits and sweep logs and safety observations which all sound stupid to keep up on but are they not a good thing to have in place?  As for the person on the saw with a metal cutting glove on, as you are aware that the fingers can be loose at the ends can you imagine if that chainmail glove got even brushed by that bone in blade! I have worked for other chains and used their policies and I can tell you , Its tough to keep up with but if you are a hard worker and have a good work ethic, it is an awesome place to work, all divisions.  As a meatcutter myself I understand all the bitching about policies and procedures but I do my fair share of bitching. but hey its a good job, you get to be rewarded with customer compliments and know you contribute to your department success at the end of the day. P.S. I wish they paid us what they are paying you! :)     


 

Safeway is not a good place to work as a meat cutter. Ask anyone in Northern California who's doing it right now. Of course it's better than being unemployed. If it's good or not depends on how you look at it. I'm looking at it compared to where I work now. I happen to work in a very nice place. I also look at it compared to how Safeway used to be (25 years ago). You can always look at the bright side of things if you want. No matter what the situation, there will always be someone el;se who's worse off. If you want to get real though, Safeway isn't very good.
I've been cutting meat since 1978 and even without that, common sense would tell anyone that using a steel chain mesh glove can be dangerous on the saw. I was cutting one short loin. ONE. It's not like I was the saw man in a high production shop going as fast as I can cutting 10 cases of pork loins while two people tray up the chops and wiped them. I know what I'm doing and I haven't had my first saw cut yet. I say yet because I know it can always happen. I don't want to jinx myself. If/when it happens, I bet it wont be because of a mesh glove. I don't even use the mesh glove in my 40 hour job. I don't need a hall monitor who wasn't even born when I started cutting to tell me about saw safety. However, she needs me (to exist) to justify her stupid job. She could have been more useful in a check stand. When I have to wear one, I happen to wear my chain mesh glove very tight. I have a cloth glove first, then the chain glove and then a X-large latex glove that holds everything tight. I bring a few dozen of my own. I don't have a loose glove dangling around. I left the glove on because it's a pain to take it of and on off and on off and on off and on. You know what else is dangerous? Sleeping in a bed is dangerous. Don't you know that more people die in beds than anywhere else? But I'll take my chance. I'm still gonna sleep in a bed and I'll still wear that glove while cutting one item at Safeway.
Safeway's safety rules ARE stupid. What about locking the cardboard bailer so that no one will get hurt? Just another thing to make your job very frustrating.
Regarding your point about being "rewarded with customer compliments": I say BS. I got two complaints at the Safeway I worked at on July 22. One was because Safeway was out of an ad item. The other was a customer who was mad that he had to wait for his petite top sirloin to be cut while I finished with the 3 people ahead of him in the full service case. (BTW, I previously started a thread about stores with service cases who don't hire enough people to run them) He went up front and complained. Safeway didn't hire enough people to satisfy the customers. I'm positive they could have used at least 16 more hours of labor that day. The wall deli was run down, the counter had holes everywhere.

 Burgerfiestier, I like your edge man lol! Workin with you'd be a trip! Don't hold back man tell us how you REALLY feel!



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It's been a while. I was wondering how the new job is going? Great I hope.

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haven't worked for Safeway in Alberta myself but a good friend of mine was a meatcutter at grande prairie safeway (northern alberta) . union shop he was paid 22.00 per hour at top rate (after two years based on store's volume) and that's when i ran a small meat dept making the same on salary working average 50 hours per week.
So for Alberta Canada, and edmonton has lots of safeway's, this seems like a great move! I'll be sticking with management for now but there are weeks i calculate that i make a lot less based on how many actual hours i work

good luck! (not that you need it!)



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So far so good. Its been a few weeks now and I am doing a quarter of the work that I used to do as a manager at the other job and getting paid a few cents an hour more. I was even called in to work an extra shift AND GOT PAID FOR IT. I will never go back to salary again. I get what you mean by clocking in and clocking out. I guess the union comes in and performs audits on the time cards. If there are extra minutes on your time card over the 8 hours that you have worked and not claimed the store has to pay you for all those minutes. The store manager told me that he had to pay out 4500 hours to employees that had clocked in early but only claimed the 8 hours of work. Its a pain because I like to arrive early. When I open I arrive at 6am and then go clock in at 630 so as not to get into any trouble. no one is there at that time so I think I am safe. It has only been a few weeks so I will keep an open mind, collect my pay check ( we get paid every week!!) and do my best.... we will see how this all works out. They are cutting hours and shifts so I do believe that my work load will increase but I am not afraid of hard work. Yes Matt some weeks you are making less but I understand when you are a manager thats what you love to do and the perks are sometimes worth it. I just hope I can keep the manager part of me quiet and be the employee. After all in order to be a great leader you must first become be a great follower

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......... I get what you mean by clocking in and clocking out. I guess the union comes in and performs audits on the time cards. If there are extra minutes on your time card over the 8 hours that you have worked and not claimed the store has to pay you for all those minutes............


I don't understand. I think you are talking about 2 different things. 1: Time cards 2: clocking in. At Safeway in Northern California, there are no time cards. You go to the machine and press "start shift" or start lunch, end lunch, end shift, and then you put in your employee number and press "enter" (or equivalent word). A time card as far as I know is an old fashioned item that Safeway hasn't used in 30 years or more. A hard paper card that you slide into the clock and it records the exact time. Anyone can pick up your card and read it. The Safeway method is private and people can't access it. Just payroll and management with their special card and password. The union can't check on it. They may look at the schedule any time. Your union rep might come in at 6:05 AM and see you working and then see that the schedule says 6:30. Then you have to explain that management asked you to come in early that one day. If he/she then see's you clocking in 25 minutes later, that will be hard to explain.

 

Every second you "punch in" early or late in each of your 4 daily entrees can combine for enough extra time each day where the payroll computer automatically pays you overtime. There's no checking necessary by the union or anyone. It's automatic and impossible for you not to get paid if you punch in improperly. And that's where/how employees get written up and maybe worse. It can be hard if you must punch out and have a customer at the same time.



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So far so good. Its been a few weeks now and I am doing a quarter of the work that I used to do as a manager at the other job and getting paid a few cents an hour more. I was even called in to work an extra shift AND GOT PAID FOR IT. I will never go back to salary again.............


 That's great! I hope you continue to enjoy it.



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it sounds like it is working out nicely for you. I still think I need to move to canada to cut meat do you realize you are making more than twice of half the meat cutters i know.

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Yup the safeway up here still has the old time punch cards that all can see. we punch the card when we start, punch out for lunch, punch in after lunch, then punch out at the end of our shift. We even have to add up our card at the end of our work week. ( a dollar extra an hour when we work Sundays) If we forget to put the sunday hours in the correct box we will not get the extra dollar an hour. As for the rate of pay you have to remember that we are taxed to death up here and everything is much more expensive than down in the states. For instance the 6 pack of paper towels cost me $6.99 on sale today. To fill up my truck cost $100.00 and to buy a house on the cheap side cost a minimum of $300,000. So I think its all relative. On a pay check of $1800.00 your lucky to clear $1300.00 after all the tax is taken off. Then depending on how much your spouse makes they tax you again at tax time in april. The more you make the more is taken. Maybe im mistaken , if so let me know as I am not really sure about the prices and taxes in the USA

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well i have a small compact car it costed 54.00 to fill up today that is a 15 gallon tank. you do the math. the price was actually down from last week it was 3.95 today. i think that paper towel price sounded pretty high. i wouldn't pay that much for it. house prices depend on the area. in michigan you can get a pretty big h ouse for 100,000 in viriginia that isn't so. it cost me 300,000 to buy a 4 bedroom 5 y ears ago. which i lost to foreclosure. as far as taxes i don't know but i haven't heard anyone say they are happy with the current taxes. is that 1800 a week? i don't make anywhere near that in a week and i have been cutting for 15 years.

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time to look into moving to Canada and working for Safeway. Alberta is bringing in people from mexico and other locations to work in hospitality and medical positions... why not let Americans move up here to work... its worth checking out

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When I first started at Pathmark in 1981 we still had time cards to punch.  Of course one of the secuirty cameras was trained on it to catch people punching other people in or out.  By the mid-80s though the system was all electronic and you just punched in your employee ID and the code (start, stop, break, lunch, etc.) No real concern about the union auditing record but there was a labor board that audited the records and the employer had to give them access. Anyone punching in our out more than 7 minutes from shift had to get or lose a 1/4 hour's time.

Of course before that when I worked for an independent chain, they had an admin that puched cards for EVERYONE in the 11 store chain, ensuring that no one got overtime no matter what the card that THEY punched said.



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Yes it does vary by where you are. I pay $5.99 for a 6 pack of paper towels in Michigan.  My Michigan home is small at 3 BR 2BA but quite nice and cost me $165k new a year and a half ago on a half acre lot. My PA home is nicer, twice that size, on 5 acres and cost me $500k new in 2006. 

I just traded my Dodge pickup for a Toyota prius 3 months ago and love it. I get 60 mpg around town and still get 45 mpg on the highway averaging 75 mph.  It used to cost me $290 for gas to go home to PA and back, Now it costs me just $80!



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time to look into moving to Canada and working for Safeway. Alberta is bringing in people from mexico and other locations to work in hospitality and medical positions... why not let Americans move up here to work... its worth checking out


 they are probably afraid us  american's will take over canada just like we got taken over.



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Yes it does vary by where you are. I pay $5.99 for a 6 pack of paper towels in Michigan.  My Michigan home is small at 3 BR 2BA but quite nice and cost me $165k new a year and a half ago on a half acre lot. My PA home is nicer, twice that size, on 5 acres and cost me $500k new in 2006. 

I just traded my Dodge pickup for a Toyota prius 3 months ago and love it. I get 60 mpg around town and still get 45 mpg on the highway averaging 75 mph.  It used to cost me $290 for gas to go home to PA and back, Now it costs me just $80!


 Jim I agree with you on the gas milage.  but come winter you might miss that pick up if its a 4 wheel drive.



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Fdarn,
  I do worry about that. Made my decision based on so many people telling me I don't need 4WD in Michigan like I defintely do in PA.  Michigan is much flatter than PA. I need 4wd  just to get up my driveway in PA. I am going to have to plan my trips home more carefully coordinating with the weather reports.
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Yes it does vary by where you are. I pay $5.99 for a 6 pack of paper towels in Michigan.  My Michigan home is small at 3 BR 2BA but quite nice and cost me $165k new a year and a half ago on a half acre lot. My PA home is nicer, twice that size, on 5 acres and cost me $500k new in 2006. 

I just traded my Dodge pickup for a Toyota prius 3 months ago and love it. I get 60 mpg around town and still get 45 mpg on the highway averaging 75 mph.  It used to cost me $290 for gas to go home to PA and back, Now it costs me just $80!


 Jim I agree with you on the gas milage.  but come winter you might miss that pick up if its a 4 wheel drive.


 



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I understand it was the same for me in Va. I had to have a 4wd. Michigan is flatter but sometimes the snow is sooo deep and we have to go to work. But even then I would rather save money on gas too.

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....... As for the rate of pay you have to remember that we are taxed to death up here and everything is much more expensive than down in the states. For instance the 6 pack of paper towels cost me $6.99 on sale today. ..........


 

I never really compare or check prices of stuff like this, but since you mentioned it:

At Safeway in San Jose Ca today, I checked a few 6 pack paper towel prices. There are so many different sizes of paper towel rolls. Saying a 6 pack is $6.99 doesn't tell a lot. The cheapest I found (without looking at all of them) was the Safeway store brand. It's $6.99 and I think it claimed their 6 really equals 12 (or was it 10 ?)

The $6.99 Safeway 6 pack had the most square feet of all the 6 packs I checked. It had 403 square feet @ 1.5 cents per sheet.

 

 Brawny was $7.49 for 280.5 sq ft. 1.6 cents per sheet.

Bounty was $10.99 for 305 sq ft @ 2.9 cents per sheet

Bright Green (from recycled paper) was 279.3 sq feet @ 2.2 cents per sheet.

I didn't compare 8 packs or singles.

The cheapest paper towels are often crappy and not a wise buy. Some leave lint when you use them to wash windows or mirrors. Some are too thin.

I like the ones that are cut in half sheet size. Sometimes you don't need a full sheet.

It's been my experience that almost all store brand grocery store items are not nearly as good as the well known national brand, and I stay away from them no matter what the price is.



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Burgermeister,
  You're quite right about many items offered as store brands.  While I do think some items can be just as good or  better, I think the majority are not as good. One example that comes to mind was my employer's (Pathmark) store brand "No Frillls".  While they had a Pathmark store brand that was quite good, I remember the "No Frills" lightbulbs that had a life span that you could literally equate to that of a housefly!
On the other hand, we had our own sausage plant and our sausage was the best I had ever had. I guess it was no coincidence that our plant produced more sausage than any other plant in the USA. We also had a "ChefMark" brand of lunchmeats and those products were second to none.
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I never really compare or check prices of stuff like this, but since you mentioned it:

At Safeway in San Jose Ca today, I checked a few 6 pack paper towel prices. There are so many different sizes of paper towel rolls. Saying a 6 pack is $6.99 doesn't tell a lot. The cheapest I found (without looking at all of them) was the Safeway store brand. It's $6.99 and I think it claimed their 6 really equals 12 (or was it 10 ?)

The $6.99 Safeway 6 pack had the most square feet of all the 6 packs I checked. It had 403 square feet @ 1.5 cents per sheet.

 

 Brawny was $7.49 for 280.5 sq ft. 1.6 cents per sheet.

Bounty was $10.99 for 305 sq ft @ 2.9 cents per sheet

Bright Green (from recycled paper) was 279.3 sq feet @ 2.2 cents per sheet.

I didn't compare 8 packs or singles.

The cheapest paper towels are often crappy and not a wise buy. Some leave lint when you use them to wash windows or mirrors. Some are too thin.

I like the ones that are cut in half sheet size. Sometimes you don't need a full sheet.

It's been my experience that almost all store brand grocery store items are not nearly as good as the well known national brand, and I stay away from them no matter what the price is.



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wow, it seems that prices are just as high down there as they are up here. I wonder why Canadians go across the border to shop.
Burgermeister you are one funny guy, love to have the chance to work with you we would have a blast.

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wow, it seems that prices are just as high down there as they are up here. I wonder why Canadians go across the border to shop.
Burgermeister you are one funny guy, love to have the chance to work with you we would have a blast.


 you are kidding me?  I thouht americans were going across the border to shop in canada especially where medicine is concerned. 



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I ran across this old post from a Safeway worker, thought ya'll might like to see what some of the others are going through. NOTICE THE DATES, things may be better now

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Postby Earl1984 » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:46 pm

I have worked for Randall's in the Houston area for twenty seven years now and for the past several years since Safeway took over have noticed the company going in a downhill spin! Our District Manager has lost his mind with the secret shopper program by paying his friends and family an average of 7,000 dollars a week to judge and destroy the employees . We have been on pins and needles (afraid to even wait on customers for fear of getting something wrong) and it has been getting worse by the day.He sends in shoppers at least 4 times a day to grade you and if you mess up you have to drive almost an hour to a different store just for a 2 hour meeting ! I now hear that if you miss more than 3 shops in a row then you can and will get terminated!They are also going as far as to transfer you to a store farther away from your home to give you incentive to quit!I already have a two hour drive one way to work as it is !
Is there any way to stop this madness? We are working on a skeleton crew as it is and they are demanding one person do the job of six or more people plus give all this first class service.I have been so stressed out as well as most all other employees in the store,several have talked about leaving and I may not be to far behind ! Never before have I felt so under appreciated for the things I do !We all have felt like we have been working in a concentration camp for the past several months and are heading for the gas chambers!
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Postby Way2tired » Sat Oct 10, 2009 2:50 pm

Earl,

Take heart that you are not alone. What you cite about meetings for bad shops is across the company from what I see, as are skeleton crew hours. I have a source that told me a sad but true thing. The company is fast to take away hours, but slow to give em back after they eventually realize what they did. In the meantime, people work harder than ever, and without a supportive manager, this can become a nightmare. I lived it and was fortunate to get a transfer. Hours are still minimal and I still work way too hard for any person, but I have a manager I can communicate with.

I realize you are in Randalls and I cant speak to that division directly, except to say that as you likely see, its become a Safeway in Randalls clothing.

As hard as it is for me to say this, take some pressure off and clock in, do your work, take your breaks and clock out. Do your best so no one can say otherwise truthfully, and be satisfied you did your best.

As to the shopper program, the rules have changed and it is tougher than ever. Heaven forbid a BoB miss for a checker. In some districts, managers are sent to other stores to shop in addition to the hired company, true, but no DM has a budget to actually 'pay' friends and relatives to do that anymore, unless there is some creative bookwork going on. That budget was cut back in March 08 when backstage was hit with layoffs.
 
 

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Postby PaperORplastic » Tue Oct 13, 2009 8:44 pm

Secret Shopper four times a day??? That is ridiculous! Our store get a secret shopper once a week, we get lucky if it's couple times a week.

The manager goes to a meeting when the store get a bad shop, the DM asked them what is their plan and how can they fix it, the pressure is on the SM not on the employee. The SM get blamed by the DM for having a bad shop. Most of the stores don't get any help, if there is no back up checker are they going to blame the employees on not making the lines? Usually the back up checker is the management. What if the store is too busy and there is no courtesy clerk to collect the carts, get the garbage, clean the bathroom and etc., Are they going to blame the employees for that also?

Usually the SM, ASM and 2nd ASM are the Secret Shopper.

In my store there was one employee who miss the shop and and she missed BOB, the SM wanted to write up the employee. The union said, they can't write up an employee for that, cause it was a secret shopper. So, I don't think they can write you up if you miss a shop cause it was a secret shopper. If you miss all shops and all was a NO in every category, then an employee must be really terrible in customer service.
 
 

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Postby Way2tired » Thu Oct 15, 2009 10:11 am

In my store we tend to have better shops that others in our division as well as OOS conditions being lower - generally, but twice now at 2 different stores the load did not arrive until after 4 and as a result OOS went up as I order truck to shelf with minimal backup except exceptional ad items. Still my backroom is getting heavy due to the eMap of my store. I used to be able to go under c90 and correct it and a few weeks later the distribution to ends that don't exist would stop. That has changed and its a corp level thing that has to go through merch. Ugh. Try getting product for 23 ends when you have only 18.

Sadly, very soon I have a lot of product that will be out of code just sitting in my backroom, as the shelf is full and that too will go out. At least it will free up space.

I suspect the more westerly stores are being shopped more because of the investor group that did a secret visit to stores and rated Safeway a potential no buy if the company did not fix conditions. How do you monitor this? More shoppers from the contract company as well as from our company employees.

It is interesting to note that Safeway is looking to lure investors. It makes sense, but with making the books look good by cutting labor, its kind of sad as its a catch 22. No labor, conditions fail. Excess labor profit plunges. Make a happy medium say I.
 
 
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i currently work for a safeway sister store here in chicago called Dominicks and yes you have to do them stupid safety things !! i can say this i wish i would have took the buy out yrs ago lol............... I love my job lol NOTTTTT


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thats what they told a girl in the bakery manegment program and after 2 yrs going from store to store she quit and went to  Roundys owners store here in chicago

 



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that sucks,

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